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Weather Software => Meteohub/Meteobridge => Topic started by: merlinwx on May 15, 2017, 01:30:09 AM
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My equipment:
Davis VP2
Belfryboy logger
TP-3020 AP
TP-AC1750 router
I have flashed my AP successfully and I am passing data from the Davis console to the AP and out to the internet. However, when I remove the ethernet connection between the AP and the router the AP fails to communicate with the router. I thought the AP, once flashed, could communicate with the router via ethernet wire OR wireless. Am I doing something wrong?
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My equipment:
Davis VP2
Belfryboy logger
TP-3020 AP
TP-AC1750 router
I have flashed my AP successfully and I am passing data from the Davis console to the AP and out to the internet. However, when I remove the ethernet connection between the AP and the router the AP fails to communicate with the router. I thought the AP, once flashed, could communicate with the router via ethernet wire OR wireless. Am I doing something wrong?
1. test the Meteobridge connected to your LAN => is OK as it is communicating and uploading :grin:
2. When the Meteobridge is still connected to your LAN tell the Meteobridge WHICH WirelessLan it should use further.
Instructions in the WiKi: http://meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Setup_Network
Select WirelessLan first before you can enter the settings
Leave IP-address at "Receive automatically"
3. Then press "Save and Apply and Reboot" AND remove the network cable from the Meteobridge
It will then use your WirelessLAN
If it does not work with the WLAN, insert the network cable again, reboot (or remove insert power cable) and check the typing of the SSID and password.
Wim
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wvdkuil, thx for the response! I followed your procedure and after a couple of rounds reboots the WLAN mode finally worked. Much appreciated!
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wvdkuil, thx for the response! I followed your procedure and after a couple of rounds reboots the WLAN mode finally worked. Much appreciated!
You are welcome :grin:
The problem that it takes multiple times to get the WLAN working is often caused by sub-optimal WLAN conditions. Try to rearrange the small Meteobridge device with all those cables for power, usb hub, weatherstation a.s.o.
To make sure that the device starts the next time you can also add a spare USB stick to your Meteobridge. It will store your network settings there and also the latest Meteobridge software version as loaded form their server. If you specify to use the version from the USB it will load quicker when you want to reboot. You can do that on the system tab.
In most cases you do not want to use the latest version: "do not fix it, when it ain't broken", better use the version which is working OK and only upgrade because of new features you are planning to use and for which you want to invest the time to do the necessary testing.
Wim
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Thx for the info. What is a USB stick and where/how would I install it? Totally agree with the idea to stay with the version that's working rather than chasing the upgrade issues...been there, done that too many times. #-o
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Thx for the info. What is a USB stick and where/how would I install it? Totally agree with the idea to stay with the version that's working rather than chasing the upgrade issues...been there, done that too many times. #-o
Being a native dutch speaker, I used the wrong words. In English it seems to be called a USB flash drive:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive
A USB flash drive, also variously known as a USB drive, USB stick, thumb drive, pen drive, jump drive, flash-drive or USB memory
You probably have multiple of these handy things around the house.
Wim
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Im having the same problem as a new user.
I tried to switch the device over to wireless from cabled. I put in the wireless settings, and then clicked on save and reboot. My device disappeared.
So I unplugged everything and hooked it back to the modem via ethernet cable.
It still cannot be found again after unplugging and replugging several times.
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Im having the same problem as a new user.
I tried to switch the device over to wireless from cabled. I put in the wireless settings, and then clicked on save and reboot. My device disappeared.
So I unplugged everything and hooked it back to the modem via ethernet cable.
It still cannot be found again after unplugging and replugging several times.
In what state is the Meteobridge => what does the LED show?
Constant on => it loaded itself from the internet
Slow blinking => It is starting
Fast blinking (can be going on for a minute or so) => it tries to load itself from the internet
Check here: http://meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Boot_Sequence
Try to remove the WLAN settings by pressing the reset button once during reboot.
As you can not reach the Meteobridge you can reboot by removing the power supply => count to ten => put the power back in.
Another similar discussion: http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32101
Wim
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The power light is on of course.
The Internet light is off.
The WLAN light is blinking
The The RJ45 Ethernet port is blinking (flashing)
The WPS/Reset light is on steady.
Yesterday it was so close to ready when attached by ethernet to modem. All menus had been filled in, but I wanted the unit to work wirelessly so it didn't have to sit in a different room from my desk and PC.
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The power light is on of course.
The Internet light is off.
The WLAN light is blinking
The The RJ45 Ethernet port is blinking (flashing)
The WPS/Reset light is on steady.
Yesterday it was so close to ready when attached by ethernet to modem. All menus had been filled in, but I wanted the unit to work wirelessly so it didn't have to sit in a different room from my desk and PC.
As the reset light is steady it could be working OK. It could have got another IP-address from the WLAN network DHCP server.
You can check if it is working, and if so what ti IP-address is, by using the "Lazy Way" and asking the meteobridge server.
http://meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Getting_Started => Lazy Way => Magic-IP http://magicip.meteobridge.com/
It returns all known Meteobridges which has been on your network.
But you have to be on the same network as the meteobridge you are looking for.
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If this does not work, press the reset button, release the button after 1 blink => all network settings are set to default DHCP
Then run the Meteobridge with a cable to your LAN and retry the WLAN settings.
Wim
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This "lazy way" shows my device menu and all the stuff I typed into the menus yesterday!
I don't understand how it does this.
So if I want, I can attempt to save and reboot to wireless again, according to what it is showing me.
Should I leave the ethernet cable plugged in when I do this?
Thank you for using your time to help me.
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Wow, it is actually working. New IP address discovered via "lazy way" communicated with device.
Wireless settings working. Removed cable and brought meteobridge to my desk and plugged it in.
Able to communicate via new IP address. Amazing.
There's nothing to do now but attach meteobridge to my Davis console and see what happens with data transfer.
Thank you so much.
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I was going to suggest you use the DHCP client list in your router to find the AP addresses but it looks like you're good to go...congrats! A great little setup, IMHO.
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Thx for the info. What is a USB stick and where/how would I install it? Totally agree with the idea to stay with the version that's working rather than chasing the upgrade issues...been there, done that too many times. #-o
Being a native dutch speaker, I used the wrong words. In English it seems to be called a USB flash drive:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive
A USB flash drive, also variously known as a USB drive, USB stick, thumb drive, pen drive, jump drive, flash-drive or USB memory
You probably have multiple of these handy things around the house.
Wim
Ok, I see what you mean, yes, I have one of those. #-o How do you download the software from the AP to the thumb drive?
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Thx for the info. What is a USB stick and where/how would I install it? Totally agree with the idea to stay with the version that's working rather than chasing the upgrade issues...been there, done that too many times. #-o
Being a native dutch speaker, I used the wrong words. In English it seems to be called a USB flash drive:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive
A USB flash drive, also variously known as a USB drive, USB stick, thumb drive, pen drive, jump drive, flash-drive or USB memory
You probably have multiple of these handy things around the house.
Wim
Ok, I see what you mean, yes, I have one of those. #-o How do you download the software from the AP to the thumb drive?
1. You have already an USB hub attached to your Meteobridge as you are using a Davis USB logger
2. Put an empty normal size USB stick (2GB is OK) into the Meteobridge USB hub
3. After reboot the Meteobridge will store the downloaded latest version of the Meteobridge software on the USB stick to be used with the next reboot.
4. Go on your Meteobridge to the System tab => Maintenance => Version Control: and select "try USB first"
Only when there is a new release of the Meteobridge software you need to use, you have to change "try USB first" to "get newest on reboot".
Reboot the meteobridge, the latest release is downloaded and saved on the USB. Do not forget to set the setting back to "try USB first".
Wim
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Thx Wim, got it. BTW, I've been reading about Meteobridge not supporting (fixes) their current SW versions unless you pay a fee of 19 euro/2 yr. WTF? I am seriously considering not renewing after my trial is over. Problem is I don't know of any similar product out there...and I've already flashed my AP.
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Thx Wim, got it. BTW, I've been reading about Meteobridge not supporting (fixes) their current SW versions unless you pay a fee of 19 euro/2 yr. WTF? I am seriously considering not renewing after my trial is over. Problem is I don't know of any similar product out there...and I've already flashed my AP.
Although that is discussed in another topic, I want to stress that IMHO there is no such product as Meteobridge, not with and not without the optional 10 euro per year support after the first two years..
Meteobridge is supported by all 4 major Weather-Templates, it grew from a small WU-upload device to a full fledged weather-program, including HTTP uploads, SQL support, E-mail alerts, webcam superimposing support and a lot of others extra's. It even lets you use your Davis in your existing or another weather-program by the pass-through facility.
So consider this:
You start with Meteobridge and at every re-boot you load the latest version.
After all is working fine with your website, webcam a.s.o. you should get rid of automatic updates and use what is working with an USB stick to load the Meteobridge program from.
At the end of the free two year updates check if you would need the "latest" release, probably not as all is working fine for then.
On the other hand, if there are continuously new changes / extensions you need or want to test, you can buy another 2 years of updates.
This is the page of the WiKi http://meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Forum with all releases and updates since 2013, impressive to look at, but most users only use less then 25% ? of all functions.
I have to support the Meteobridge for my Leuven-Template (http://support.leuven-template.eu/), so I need to test with older and latest versions. But really 19 euro for two years extra support and only charged if you need it, seems a adequate deal to me.
Wim
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Thx Wim, got it. BTW, I've been reading about Meteobridge not supporting (fixes) their current SW versions unless you pay a fee of 19 euro/2 yr. WTF? I am seriously considering not renewing after my trial is over. Problem is I don't know of any similar product out there...and I've already flashed my AP.
Don't get caught up in this campaign by a select few that are making noise re this 19 euro/2 year to acquire the latest version, this does not prevent your MB from doing what it is doing today as a life time licence. The license to buy today comes with the next 2 years of everything included, which includes any fixes (if required)for the version you buy today plus any new version within the next 2 years, if you want new "features" beyond what you buy today and beyond the 2 years then this is your choice. Quite simple really.
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Thx Mattk and Wim. Sounds like this is a "tempest in a teapot" issue for the casual user like me who simply use the product to push local data to WU and CWOP through a TP-link. Guess I'll go ahead and "tie the knot" with MB.
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1. You have already an USB hub attached to your Meteobridge as you are using a Davis USB logger
2. Put an empty normal size USB stick (2GB is OK) into the Meteobridge USB hub
3. After reboot the Meteobridge will store the downloaded latest version of the Meteobridge software on the USB stick to be used with the next reboot.
4. Go on your Meteobridge to the System tab => Maintenance => Version Control: and select "try USB first"
Only when there is a new release of the Meteobridge software you need to use, you have to change "try USB first" to "get newest on reboot".
Reboot the meteobridge, the latest release is downloaded and saved on the USB. Do not forget to set the setting back to "try USB first".
Wim
Wim, The MBPro obviously has internal memory (USB) as well as several external USB ports on front & back panels but doesn't have "try USB first" option in the version control. What does this mean to the MB Pro re downloading / rebooting etc?
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Thx Mattk and Wim. Sounds like this is a "tempest in a teapot" issue for the casual user like me who simply use the product to push local data to WU and CWOP through a TP-link. Guess I'll go ahead and "tie the knot" with MB.
I am still running a MB with 2.5 (Jul 31 2015) and does exactly what I need it to do, also have MB's with 3.2, MB Pro's stuck to 3.1 (they also do exactly what they are supposed to do) as well as version 3.2. Also run a MB Pro with the latest FW but only for testing purposes as for normal operational use you always want to set the version control to stick to a specific version or use installed version so as not to pick up the newest version (by default) if the unit happens to reboot/repower etc.
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Thx Mattk and Wim. Sounds like this is a "tempest in a teapot" issue for the casual user like me who simply use the product to push local data to WU and CWOP through a TP-link. Guess I'll go ahead and "tie the knot" with MB.
Also run a MB Pro with the latest FW but only for testing purposes as for normal operational use you always want to set the version control to stick to a specific version or use installed version so as not to pick up the newest version (by default) if the unit happens to reboot/repower etc.
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Trying to select the current version could be tough...right now I have v3.3 running as a trial. No updates have been made to the system page to allow v3.3 to be selected as a preferred version. Hope that changes soon. Not sure what to select as it stands now. Will probably just do as Win suggested and put the current version on a thumb drive and set to "try USB first". Only problem with that is my TP-3020 has only one USB port so in the event of reboot/repower scenario, I'll be off line until I can get the thumb drive in and reload v3.3.
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Thx Mattk and Wim. Sounds like this is a "tempest in a teapot" issue for the casual user like me who simply use the product to push local data to WU and CWOP through a TP-link. Guess I'll go ahead and "tie the knot" with MB.
Also run a MB Pro with the latest FW but only for testing purposes as for normal operational use you always want to set the version control to stick to a specific version or use installed version so as not to pick up the newest version (by default) if the unit happens to reboot/repower etc.
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Trying to select the current version could be tough...right now I have v3.3 running as a trial. No updates have been made to the system page to allow v3.3 to be selected as a preferred version. Hope that changes soon. Not sure what to select as it stands now. Will probably just do as Win suggested and put the current version on a thumb drive and set to "try USB first". Only problem with that is my TP-3020 has only one USB port so in the event of reboot/repower scenario, I'll be off line until I can get the thumb drive in and reload v3.3.
I am doing some other tests at the moment, so I can only show a screenshot for version 3.2
Latest version:
On top op the "version control" drop down selection list the default selection: "get newest on boot"
So if you leave as is, all new minor (3.3) or major (3.4 and later) versions will be loaded when you reboot.
Check a previous version once
If you do not want the latest version you can use "stick to x.y version" as long as a specific "older" version is in your list.
Continue to use a previous version
Then you should insert an usb stick, reboot with a a previous version selected, after reboot change to "try USB first"
General remark
I advice people to always use an usb stick as it sometimes (rarely) happens that the Meteobridge-server is offline / can not be reached for a few hours.
If your MB is rebooting at that time it would be flashing until the MB-server is reachable again.
When there is a USB-stick connected it will, after some minutes trying from the server, switch to the latest version on the stick.
USB-hub
The TP 3020 is USB 2.0 only. You can not use the MB without a USB-hub when using a Davis USB logger. That device is USB 1.1
Maybe your Belfryboy logger is 2.0, so please check if it is.
Wim
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1. You have already an USB hub attached to your Meteobridge as you are using a Davis USB logger
2. Put an empty normal size USB stick (2GB is OK) into the Meteobridge USB hub
3. After reboot the Meteobridge will store the downloaded latest version of the Meteobridge software on the USB stick to be used with the next reboot.
4. Go on your Meteobridge to the System tab => Maintenance => Version Control: and select "try USB first"
Only when there is a new release of the Meteobridge software you need to use, you have to change "try USB first" to "get newest on reboot".
Reboot the meteobridge, the latest release is downloaded and saved on the USB. Do not forget to set the setting back to "try USB first".
Wim
Wim, The MBPro obviously has internal memory (USB) as well as several external USB ports on front & back panels but doesn't have "try USB first" option in the version control. What does this mean to the MB Pro re downloading / rebooting etc?
I assume that after a reboot, it will try to load from the server first and then, if that fails, from the internal flash-memory.
I have no MB-pro available AND I find it very strange that that option is not there. Most MB-users with slow internet connections prefer to boot from USB. And for most users it is not needed to load the MB program from internet.
Wim
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Thx Mattk and Wim. Sounds like this is a "tempest in a teapot" issue for the casual user like me who simply use the product to push local data to WU and CWOP through a TP-link. Guess I'll go ahead and "tie the knot" with MB.
Also run a MB Pro with the latest FW but only for testing purposes as for normal operational use you always want to set the version control to stick to a specific version or use installed version so as not to pick up the newest version (by default) if the unit happens to reboot/repower etc.
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Trying to select the current version could be tough...right now I have v3.3 running as a trial. No updates have been made to the system page to allow v3.3 to be selected as a preferred version. Hope that changes soon. Not sure what to select as it stands now. Will probably just do as Win suggested and put the current version on a thumb drive and set to "try USB first". Only problem with that is my TP-3020 has only one USB port so in the event of reboot/repower scenario, I'll be off line until I can get the thumb drive in and reload v3.3.
That's correct until there becomes a version v3.4 then v3.3 will not appear in the drop down list or be available to make sticky. However with MBPro (and I am not currently able to test wit MB) there is an option to "use installed version" and what this appears to do is stick with the current installed version & build. So current MBPro version is 3.3 (May 14 2017, build 11196), use installed version will retain this version/build even after the next v3.3 / new date/build is released following a reboot.
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As MB PRO does have internal storage, this is used analogue to "use USB first" and named "use internal version" not to misguide users that it might need an additional USB thumb drive or alike.
Current version is 3.3. When "use latest version" is selected (default) you will get the 3.3 in the state it has evolved right now on every boot. Once we freeze 3.3 and step over to 3.4 the frozen 3.3 will be selectable in the list, to allow you to stick to it. As we regularily do updates and fixes it will not be handy to have all ever made version for download (would be more than 100). Versions we do a freeze on are usually well tested and reported doing fine by the forum response.
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Only problem with that is my TP-3020 has only one USB port so in the event of reboot/repower scenario, I'll be off line until I can get the thumb drive in and reload v3.3.
Get a USB hub. That will give you multiple ports. A un-powered version is about $10 USD and with an external power supply about $20 USD.
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My BelfryBoy logger uses a USB 2.0 compliant cable and chipset