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Administration => WXForum Bugs/Suggestions => Topic started by: Glenn on September 30, 2017, 04:48:51 PM
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Would it be possible to add a like/thanks button to posts? I've found a number of posts here where I want to give some recognition, but don't see the need to post a one word "Thanks".
Appreciate the consideration!
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SMF 2.0 has a feature called Karma
Karma is a feature that shows the popularity of a member. Members, if allowed, can 'applaud' or 'smite' other members, which is how their popularity is calculated.
which (after discussion with the fellow admins a while back) we elected to not enable the feature. We'd seen other boards where 'Applaud'/'Smite' and Karma scores created undue distractions in the overall environment and were more trouble than boon.
The other 'mods' to SMF would add Facebook integration (not something we want to do).
I suggest you do a short reply to posts you find either exceptionally helpful (or unhelpful) as you are so moved. The Toast icon UU UU or Applause icon =D> =D> are also available in a post.
Best regards,
Ken
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They always devlove into popularity contests with the cool kids high fivin' each other.
Turns into a real mess and has destroyed more than one board.
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They always devlove into popularity contests with the cool kids high fivin' each other.
Turns into a real mess and has destroyed more than one board.
:grin:
not in favor here. We are pretty civilized most of the time. Easy to say thanks
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Appreciate the feedback everyone. Thanks!
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Would it be possible to add a like/thanks button to posts? I've found a number of posts here where I want to give some recognition, but don't see the need to post a one word "Thanks".
Appreciate the consideration!
Since I can't upvote or "Like" the above post I'll quote it and give it a "+1". :-)
I only participate in a few forums but they all have this feature. In one case it was only recently added and it's been well received with no real issues or problems.
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I'd like to weigh in. I'd like to know more about what troubles a thumbs up or like or karma or whatever it's called can cause.
Here is my plight. I've created a few knowledge base type threads. I've spent a lot of time researching a topic or in depth product how to and then shared in ways to help others. I often feel like I'm talking to myself and wonder if I'm wasting my time. I wonder how many people I'm really reaching and helping. I look at view count but that doesn't tell me how well the information was received. Lots of people don't bother to reply although I'd like them to.
If there was a way for even unregistered users to give thumbs up and have counter that would be good feedback for all the work I put in. I don't need a running total for my user account. I can see where that could turn into a popularity contest. I just want to see this feedback on an individual post basis. It's only pertinent how may people that one particular post helped how many people.
If this existed it would give those that help more fuel to know that their efforts are appreciated.
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I'd like to weigh in. I'd like to know more about what troubles a thumbs up or like or karma or whatever it's called can cause.
Here is my plight. I've created a few knowledge base type threads. I've spent alot of time researching a topic or in depth product how to and then shared in ways to help others. I often feel like I'm taking to myself and wonder if I'm wasting my time. I wonder how many people I'm really reaching and helping. I look at view count but that does t tell me how well the information was received. Lots of people don't bother to reply although I'd like them to.
If there was a way for even unregistered users to give thumbs up and have counter that would be good feedback for all the work I put in. I don't need a running total for my user account. I can see where that could turn into a popularity contest. I just want to see this feedback on an individual post basis. It's only pertinent how may people that one particular post helped how many people.
If this existed it would give those that help more fuel to know that their efforts are appreciated.
Well if I could give that a thumbs up or a like I would. I don't actually mind taking the time to say thanks but a like button is convenient. I can do without any thumbs down or negative buttons, I appreciate civility.
George
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A thumbs up wont cause too much negativity if any but if it includes a thumbs down then this can cause issues at some stage, i am on the DJI forum (drones) and theres someone thats habitually down voting a few of the longstanding members just because something didnt go his way, but as its a Chinese run forum, little will be done.
I vote a thumbs up or a like button that just shows that the post/reply has been likes by X amount but NOT a dislike button....
PS, i too have asked for this in the past, the problem is, we get so used to Facebook and the ease of the Like button that everywhere else that does not have one just feels odd, for folks that do not use FB or if they do, they dont use it that much then they will not feel the need for the button. Theres many times where i have wanted to just Like a post/reply but felt it didnt warrant any further input.
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I'd like to weigh in. I'd like to know more about what troubles a thumbs up or like or karma or whatever it's called can cause.
Here is my plight. I've created a few knowledge base type threads. I've spent alot of time researching a topic or in depth product how to and then shared in ways to help others. I often feel like I'm taking to myself and wonder if I'm wasting my time. I wonder how many people I'm really reaching and helping. I look at view count but that does t tell me how well the information was received. Lots of people don't bother to reply although I'd like them to.
If there was a way for even unregistered users to give thumbs up and have counter that would be good feedback for all the work I put in. I don't need a running total for my user account. I can see where that could turn into a popularity contest. I just want to see this feedback on an individual post basis. It's only pertinent how may people that one particular post helped how many people.
If this existed it would give those that help more fuel to know that their efforts are appreciated.
For what it's worth, I am in favor of "like" ratings. And I do appreciate your informative posts Galfert. I have learned a lot from your posts. Although I don't (yet) own a weather station, I follow this forum regularly. I am still waiting for the Atlas Elite to be released before I decide what to buy. There are certainly many posts on this forum that deserve a "like" rating. I participate in a few other forums that have ratings and badges, and I think it helps new members sort through the volume of information available on a forum to sort out credible information … just my opinion.
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Y'all want silly buttons? Zucker's Web's gots lots of 'em. This is a place for adults.
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the problem is, we get so used to Facebook and the ease of the Like button that everywhere else that does not have one just feels odd, for folks that do not use FB or if they do, they dont use it that much then they will not feel the need for the button.
That silly place has ruined the web and society in general enough. Don't let it infest this place.
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And just how on earth will fb affect this forum when it's nothing to do with fb?
FB has many uses, not all bad.....
You cannot please every one.....
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I am against introducing this feature here, yet I think FB has many good uses and I use it myself - that does not mean I spend hours a day posting about how I went to the toilet, but it is a way of me being able stay in touch with my old friends, organize meetings with each other and also be able to market things freely.
Therefore it is a useful tool when used sensibly. And adding it on this forum is not sensible (IMHO).
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I've always thought a better set of emojis would be nice. Not having a thumbs up is odd.
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That silly place has ruined the web and society in general enough. Don't let it infest this place.
=D> +1!
I've always thought a better set of emojis would be nice. Not having a thumbs up is odd.
WU gold stars would be a nice addition to the site emojis as well..... :lol:
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I think there must be a misunderstanding, no one i asking for FB to come here, only the idea of of a thumbs up or like option, but, as the admin have already disussed and declined, i suppose what ever is said here is moot anyway :D
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I think some might be confused as to where the notion originated. No one ever heard of it before 'that' place. I resist everything about and from there.
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I thought you said this place is for adults? :roll:
Nobody has said it didn't originate from FB, I had like buttons on my vbulettin forum back in 2007, I got the idea from FB, we get it, you don't like FB, not everyone does, but there are a helluva lot that do, it's a great place to post my data for the local community and it's also a good free place to buy and sell, it's not just about a like button ;) if you put the fake news and the chain letter rubbish that goes about to one side, it ends up being a useful platform.
We wernt asking for a Facebook copy, just a a way to acknowledge/give thanks to a helpful/useful/informative thread or comment.
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Facebook didn't invent the Like button. It was invented by FriendFeed and THEN Facebook copied them. FriendFeed was started by Google employees. FriendFeed is now defunct because Facebook later bought them.
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Never heard of that one lol learn sommat new everyday eh :)
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I'd like to weigh in. I'd like to know more about what troubles a thumbs up or like or karma or whatever it's called can cause.
I would too. Some have suggested that it creates a popularity contest but I've seen absolutely no evidence of that in the other forums that have the feature. Maybe it happens on Facebook but I don't go there so I wouldn't know.
I vote a thumbs up or a like button that just shows that the post/reply has been likes by X amount but NOT a dislike button....
+1
PS, i too have asked for this in the past, the problem is, we get so used to Facebook and the ease of the Like button that everywhere else that does not have one just feels odd, for folks that do not use FB or if they do, they dont use it that much then they will not feel the need for the button. Theres many times where i have wanted to just Like a post/reply but felt it didnt warrant any further input.
As someone who doesn't use FB, never has, and doesn't plan to in the future, I still think this is a useful feature for a forum, as you said "Theres many times where i have wanted to just Like a post/reply but felt it didnt warrant any further input."
I participate in a few other forums that have ratings and badges, and I think it helps new members sort through the volume of information available on a forum to sort out credible information … just my opinion.
...And my opinion too.
Therefore it is a useful tool when used sensibly. And adding it on this forum is not sensible (IMHO).
Thanks for sharing your opinion but you seem to be contradicting yourself. I participate in a few other special interest forums like this one. They all have a feature that allows users to "upvote" a post and I've never seen it not use sensibly. Why do you think this forum would be different?
I think there must be a misunderstanding, no one i asking for FB to come here, only the idea of of a thumbs up or like option, but, as the admin have already disussed and declined, i suppose what ever is said here is moot anyway :D
Perhaps but it's worth bringing up every now and then. One of the forums I've participated in for nearly 15 years just added the feature (after numerous discussions like this one) and it's been very well received... and I'm speaking as someone who wasn't too keen on the idea originally.
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Dare I say that someone should create a Post with a voting in it to gauge reception of adding a Like or +1 feature to individual posts????
I think there should be a clear distinction between a Like button that adds points to an individual user rather than just a Like button that elevates a thread to be more noticeable and provide feedback to the author of the post. I agree that the system should not enable popularity contest type metrics.
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Forum shouldn't become a place for popularity and adding like or thumbs up buttons is what would happen. My request is for a simple thumbs up emoji you could add to a response post. Just not big on these which seem over-enthusiastic and can be misinterpreted =D> \:D/ UU
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Dare I say that someone should create a Post with a voting in it to gauge reception of adding a Like or +1 feature to individual posts????
Again, no. People FOR something are more likely to vote than people who are opposed or don't really care either way which makes polls and surveys lopsided.
We've been shown that the 'winning' votes aren't always in the best interests of the masses.
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I'm also a bit concerned about people seemingly upset that their posts don't get as much response as they'd hoped. That fact that they crave positive reinforcement in the way of a pat on the back is exactly the kind of thing that pits me against popularity contests.
But ya' know, there is the gold star idea. And the participant trophy thing where everybody wins just by showing up.
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Ok, I'm willing to give it a try for a while and see how it goes. I've installed a mod that allows 'Likes' to postings, and also a thumbs-up smiley in the posting menu and popup menu
[tup] and :thumbsup:
Best regards,
Ken
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Dislike
(http://images.clipartpanda.com/smiley-face-thumbs-down-clipart-aceRqezki.gif)
: Offended :
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Found out you CAN change the 'Last Edit: ' time though.
Done in the Admin Control Panel
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Noted. It's easy to turn off in one setting globally. We'll see how it goes for a while.
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The 'thumbs up' [tup] you can keep even if the Like feature is removed in the future. Merry post-Christmas.
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[tup]
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Hmmm...I noticed that now users have Total Likes associated to their account. Is there not a way to turn that off but keep the Likes in the posts?
I don't have a problem with it either way. But I'm just trying to acquiesce to the concerns of others.
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Ok, I'm willing to give it a try for a while and see how it goes.
[tup] and :thumbsup:
Best regards,
Ken
Thanks!!!!
[tup] and :thumbsup:
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A couple of notes about the Like mod:
1) Like is not enabled on 'Chatter', 'Testing' or 'Posting Games' forums, just like posting counts are also not enabled there.
2) I've not enabled the 'notification' features so folks shouldn't wait for emails to let them know that their posts have been 'liked' .. seemed like a waste of email, and we'd already had a battle with the hoster over alleged-spam emails, so no need to create additional notifications.
I'm still a bit uneasy about the usefulness of this feature in the long term -- I suppose only this trial run will let both supporters/objectors to the feature see how it all works out. If it emerges that it is largely a detriment to useful knowledge exchange here, then I'll be happy to 'pull the plug' on it, and you can revert to just doing a posting with [tup] to evidence your approval.
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You won't know much without a Dislike button though.
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You won't know much without a Dislike button though.
True, no statistical count of 'Dislike' -- that wasn't an available SMF mod. We'll just have to see how it plays out for a while.
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Please, how about the size of the emoji is limited to non-Helen Keller criteria. :roll:
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Is it supposed to be appearing on thread titles?
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Is it supposed to be appearing on thread titles?
The admin panel does have an option to enable/disable that. I've turned it off on the forum titles area.
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Hmmm...I noticed that now users have Total Likes associated to their account. Is there not a way to turn that off but keep the Likes in the posts?
I don't have a problem with it either way. But I'm just trying to acquiesce to the concerns of others.
There is an option to turn off the like count under the user avatar. I'm leaving it on for now.
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Looks like the "Like stats", "Most like giving user" could do with some optimisation or 'like' index adding?
Is there a prize for the most likes in post? :roll:
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Please, how about the size of the emoji is limited to non-Helen Keller criteria. :roll:
You're right. I replaced it with something more reasonable. [tup]
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Thank you Ken for the trial:)
However, whilst i dont really see any issues perse, its not quite the "thank you" for the post/thread/comment, would be hard to know what the thanks was for tbh but least no one can maliciously down vote/dislike, thats got to be a bonus...
You can only add the Mods that are available.
I have redacted the image below for obvious reasons but you can see what i was aiming for
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I'm also a bit concerned about people seemingly upset that their posts don't get as much response as they'd hoped. That fact that they crave positive reinforcement in the way of a pat on the back is exactly the kind of thing that pits me against popularity contests.
But ya' know, there is the gold star idea. And the participant trophy thing where everybody wins just by showing up.
DJI have the latter, a point system where you ex x amount for certain things on the forum, for example 5 points just for logging in each day, earn 2800 points and thats $10 in ya credits to spend on their page, only problem there is, you get a certain few that just post rubbish for the sake of it, obviously this would only work on a business forum for sure, it gets me free propellers, such a shame the shipping costs more :lol:
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Thank you Ken for the trial:)
However, whilst i dont really see any issues perse, its not quite the "thank you" for the post/thread/comment, would be hard to know what the thanks was for tbh but least no one can maliciously down vote/dislike, thats got to be a bonus...
You can only add the Mods that are available.
I have redacted the image below for obvious reasons but you can see what i was aiming for
That mod sounds like the 'Karma' mod with 'Applaud' and 'Smite' as the two choices. We'd looked at that many years ago and decided that was too much for our young forum -- we'd seen other forums where those choices led to untoward and distracting behavior. After all, the purpose of this forum is to provide peer support for things around our mutual weather hobby, not about 1ups or 'me toos'.
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Yeah, I agree with you, the main issue I see is with the down voting, that's the root of all evil in this regard....
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So a posted in one of the forums that recently added "Like" buttons to see if any of the moderators had an opinion (good or bad) on them.
As one of the more active public forum moderators, I really like the feature.
From the reader's perspective, it lets them know that a reply from a person with 750 overall "reputation points" carries the weight of a frequent poster who is relatively well-informed.
From the poster's perspective, receiving reputation points hopefully encourages them to post more often, and more helpfully/insightfully.
From the moderator's perspective, the upvotes let me know what the community thinks of the discussion. It's especially gratifying when one of my moderator posts ("cut it out, guys") receives a number of positive upvotes. That lets me know that I did the right thing.
I think the lack of negative feedback options helps encourage the positive benefits of reputation points, while avoiding the negatives of turning posts into popularity contests.
A post with zero upvotes can mean "nobody agrees with you" without being vindictive about it (by taking away reputation points).
I originally bumped the thread because I thought (based on my experience in other forums I frequent) that this was a good feature that would make this forum better. Thanks again for giving it a try, I hope it works out and is a positive addition.
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^^^ That's as good a reason as any NOT to have if. Moderating a board should be about the rules of the board, not the popularity of a post or the poster. If a Moderator is basing decisions on popularity, they should be removed from that position.
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^^^ That's as good a reason as any NOT to have if. Moderating a board should be about the rules of the board, not the popularity of a post or the poster. If a Moderator is basing decisions on popularity, they should be removed from that position.
Concur. I don't need "rep points" or whatever to inform me of what I'm reading is worth my consideration or not. Simple communication and research should suffice in a grown ups world. As others have stated, I think emoji's can convey enough information of whether you agree or disagree with the post without becoming a popularity contest, which I think will certainly degrade the forum as a whole. Concluding now, I would insert the "two cents" emoji here if we had one.
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Guess it's a done deal but I've always subscribed to the mantra "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
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The concept of a “Like” button in this Forum reduces the content value from what I thought this Forum is all about in the first place—discussion from folks looking for helpful tips from other, more knowledgeable folks—not because of IQ, but owning a pws and using it properly has a learning curve—not steep but for retired CPAs like me, it was a challenge and in certain respects, it still is. I have learned a lot over the years in this Forum and hope in return I have helped some fellow Forum posters as well. The addition of the “Like” feature cheapens the feel of this Forum. As another poster stated, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
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Guess it's a done deal but I've always subscribed to the mantra "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
Far from a done deal, its trial to see how it goes,
^^^ That's as good a reason as any NOT to have if. Moderating a board should be about the rules of the board, not the popularity of a post or the poster. If a Moderator is basing decisions on popularity, they should be removed from that position.
Really, thats what you got from his comment?
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OK so it is now implemented. I think though that if used, it should be used to like topics, not posts. Not many people read too far behind and see which posts were popular. Instead there are not that many topics and those could have "likes" to see which ones are most popular.
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I'm noticing that I can use the Like function kind of like a bookmark feature. If I like someone else's post I can go to my profile and see the posts that I've "Liked." So if you ever need to refer to the awesome post with some great information this is another way of finding it again....because sometimes search doesn't work so well.
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I personally don't see much use of the new like feature. It adds unnecessary (de)valuation of member posts. But that's just me.
In any case, would it be possible to make it less prominent? It's very obtrusive, doesn't fit the overall site design at all, IMO. A simple link-style button like the rest of the functions below the posts to the right would fit the experience better, I think. Maybe putting it to the left so it's easier to distinguish and notice, would be sufficient for everyone who wants to use it.
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That's easily done, just change the link colour then it will blend in better.
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The like buttons use "like_link" class. Setting a different color and design to "like_link" class and adding the word "!important" would override any other CSS styles and display the like button in a style that fits this page
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The like buttons use "like_link" class. Setting a different color and design to "like_link" class and adding the word "!important" would override any other CSS styles and display the like button in a style that fits this page
I don't think the technical knowledge is missing for the site maintainers...
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Is it over yet?
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Count me as one who doesn't care for the "like".
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Count me as one who doesn't care for the "like".
I "liked" your post. :grin:
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Ahh, the irony. It's been since Feb 18,2019 (https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=32959.msg371266#msg371266) that the mod to have 'Like' has been active. So far, the ones who disliked it at the start remain disliking it. Others have 'liked' it from the start and continue using it.
I suggest that those who dislike the feature, continue to ignore/not use it. Those who find it attractive can continue using it.
I don't see it as one of life's biggies and do not consider it a thing to get overly concerned about.
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I suggest that those who dislike the feature, continue to ignore/not use it. Those who find it attractive can continue using it.
I don't see it as one of life's biggies and do not consider it a thing to get overly concerned about.
I agree. I think it's a useful feature that adds value to the forum. Thanks for giving it a try and keeping it active!
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I suggest that those who dislike the feature, continue to ignore/not use it. Those who find it attractive can continue using it.
I don't see it as one of life's biggies and do not consider it a thing to get overly concerned about.
I agree. I think it's a useful feature that adds value to the forum. Thanks for giving it a try and keeping it active!
Useful as a 3 dollar bill!😴
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My only problem with the Like feature is that there is a delay in it popping up as the page loads and often when you are using a specific thread message link or catching up on unreads it then slightly loads the page offset from the exact message mark. I'm saying that because the feature exists it changes how every page loads regardless if you are or aren't using the Like feature. Page loads didn't have this strange behavior before.
I still value the feature even with this slight annoyance.
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I have not noticed anything of the same, pages load instantly and as they should, i am using a HP lappy with an i7, 16gb, dual graphics and dual hdd's one being an SSD, so that could be why i dont see anything untoward?
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I agree. I think it's a useful feature that adds value to the forum. Thanks for giving it a try and keeping it active!
I consider it childish and I feel it harms the integrity of the board.
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It's been running long enough now and nothing has been harmed that I've noticed?
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I'm on a cellphone mostly and I haven't see any delay at all in the like button or anything else loading.
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Is it over yet?
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And adding it on this forum is not sensible (IMHO).
I'm guessing Mr. 859 feels otherwise.