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Title: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Scalphunter on November 08, 2011, 12:59:02 AM
 Only posting this here just in case some one up here has not heard about it but does read this board. As for  it going to US  it not.

A giant Pacific storm headed toward Alaska's western coast has the potential to cause major coastal flooding, serious beach erosion, heavy snowfall and widespread damage, according to the National Weather Service. A bulletin issued Monday by the Weather Service said the storm is expected to intensify "into one of the most severe Bering Sea storms on record." The agency is describing the storm as "extremely dangerous and life-threatening." Areas affected stretch from Scammon Bay in the south all the way north to Point Hope, with blizzard warnings issued starting Tuesday. "Gusts to 70 mph can be expected along the (Russia's) Chukotsk Peninsula and in areas near Kotzebue," the Weather Service said. "Winds of 60 to 75 mph are expected over St. Lawrence island and the Bering Strait coast. Winds are expected to approach hurricane force over the Chukchi Sea and northern Bering Sea. The strong winds will generate seas to as high as 20 feet over the Chukchi Sea ... and to 15 to 25 feet over the northern Bering Sea. "The strong winds will push large amounts of water into Norton Sound ... raising sea levels to as high as 8 to 9 feet above normal Tuesday night through Wednesday night. The high sea levels combined with high waves will produce severe beach erosion and major coastal flooding along the northern and eastern shores of Norton sound and along the Bering Strait coast. High water levels will produce coastal flooding along the southern shore of Norton Sound. Strong winds and wave action may push ice in Norton Bay onshore." Blizzard conditions and heavy snow are forecast throughout the region, with as much as 14 inches possible along the southern Seward Peninsula, the Weather Service said.


John
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Bushman on November 08, 2011, 01:41:45 AM
Just took a look at the radar.  YOWIE!  Looks massive and if the jetstream drops it down, Western Canada might get a white Christmas about a month and half early!
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: SlowModem on November 08, 2011, 01:42:27 AM
You need to bundle up and hang on up there John! 
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: DanS on November 08, 2011, 03:01:26 AM
Hoping for the best for you all up there. It does look like it has some potential. Got the plane tied up good I hope.
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Farmtalk on November 08, 2011, 04:59:55 AM
......You could build an arc :lol:

Hope everyone hangs in there up there. If you can find a way to take any pics, it would be awesome if we could see them! Is la nina gonna create a train of these for you all this year?
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Downlinerz2 on November 08, 2011, 08:27:44 AM
      Thats all you need.  And, as a warm up there was a 4.7 quake in southern Alaska last night.  Take care and keep safe John.  
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: CNYWeather on November 08, 2011, 09:48:44 AM
Be safe john and let us know everything is ok after it passes.  :-)
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Weather Display on November 08, 2011, 01:34:22 PM
Quote
Looks massive and if the jetstream drops it down, Western Canada might get a white Christmas about a month and half early!
the models I have looked at show in moving N through the Berring straight and then curving NW, so missing Canada altogether
i.e doing a sling shot if you like
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: W3DRM on November 08, 2011, 07:40:31 PM
Scalphunter,

Do you have any specific internet links that cover weather in your area and across the Aleutians? Some posted links would be great for all of us to watch the progress of this storm. It sounds like a real challenge for those in it's path.

For you - stay safe and away from the surf!!!
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Downlinerz2 on November 08, 2011, 07:49:28 PM
   Here is where I watch Alaska

http://www.arh.noaa.gov/
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: W3DRM on November 08, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
   Here is where I watch Alaska

http://www.arh.noaa.gov/

Thanks but I already had that one. Am more interested in animated links, if possible.

I thought that perhaps Scalphunter might have some links that those of us in the lower-48 don't have...
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Scalphunter on November 08, 2011, 10:17:02 PM
 Don mostly this one will have the best chance of pixs. 

http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-fierce-storm-batters-western-alaska-20111108,0,2206526.special

 They sent an crew out to Unakleet. Also  some stills are on the site. Problem in that part of the world internet and villages are few and far between. Wife is in touch with her people back in Hooper and Nome. Ham radio emergency net are up  at some areas.

Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Scalphunter on November 08, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
 Just reported central core pressure is at 948 mb...and dropping due to  below  zero air being pulled in from Siberia.

John
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Downlinerz2 on November 08, 2011, 10:32:24 PM
    I was just going to post the surface analysis when I saw that pressure which is about 20mb lower than I saw this morning.  That one is 943mb.
    It looks like there is a barrier island out in the strait.  Is that populated and if so is it going to be evacuated?

  {I have tried to post but it won't show the picture.  It just shows a paperclip attach symbol.
Never had that before ](*,)}
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Scalphunter on November 08, 2011, 10:38:01 PM
 Gambel and Savoonga out on St Lawence island .  Rocky and both villages are at sea level. reporting winds at 70 mph. there been some evacation but short days now  this time year. Even mediavacfligths are hunkered down.

 !974 storm with it's 27.25  barometric pressure  was the track that this storm is taking.
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Downlinerz2 on November 08, 2011, 10:40:50 PM
   Thing looks like a bulldozer on Watervapor imagery.  My thought and prayers are with you all in the path of this storm.
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: WeatherHost on November 08, 2011, 10:53:16 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/alaska-monster-storm-bering-sea.html
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: DanS on November 08, 2011, 11:41:56 PM
Gambel and Savoonga out on St Lawence island .  Rocky and both villages are at sea level. reporting winds at 70 mph. there been some evacation but short days now  this time year. Even mediavacfligths are hunkered down.

 !974 storm with it's 27.25  barometric pressure  was the track that this storm is taking.

I can see where those winds are coming from. Looks pretty intense.

 (http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss324/DanS_photo_09/scruntchedIsobars.jpg)
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: SlowModem on November 09, 2011, 12:47:04 AM
It must be serious, now it's on CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/08/us/alaska-bering-storm/index.html?hpt=hp_t2).

Chip Leeper, incident commander with the Nome government, said "Most people are a hardy lot.  We don't scare easy."



Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Scalphunter on November 09, 2011, 02:15:56 AM
Nome Radar

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=aec&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=no
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Farmtalk on November 09, 2011, 05:26:59 AM
Man! Pressure that low is bad news! Ive never seen a non tropical system have barometric pressure that low :shock:
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: CNYWeather on November 09, 2011, 07:39:40 AM
Here are a bunch of FAA webcams up there. Takes a minute or 2 to load:

http://akweathercams.faa.gov/allcams.php

Hows this for a forecast:
AKZ213-091815-
ST LAWRENCE ISLAND AND BERING STRAIT COAST-
INCLUDING...GAMBELL...SAVOONGA...BREVIG MISSION...TELLER...
WALES...DIOMEDE
725 PM AKST TUE NOV 8 2011

...COASTAL FLOOD WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL MIDNIGHT AKST WEDNESDAY
NIGHT...

...HIGH WIND WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON AKST WEDNESDAY...
.TONIGHT...HIGH WINDS. SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WITH LOCAL BLIZZARD
CONDITIONS. SNOW ACCUMULATION TO 4 INCHES. LOWS 30 TO 35.
SOUTHEAST WINDS 70 MPH WITH GUSTS AS HIGH AS 100 MPH. STRONGEST
WINDS NEAR SAVOONGA.
.WEDNESDAY...SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WITH LOCAL BLIZZARD
CONDITIONS.  SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 3 TO 6 INCHES. HIGHS 30 TO 35.
SOUTHWEST WINDS 50 TO 70 MPH DECREASING TO 35 MPH IN THE
AFTERNOON.

Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: W3DRM on November 09, 2011, 11:45:11 AM
Here are a bunch of FAA webcams up there. Takes a minute or 2 to load:

http://akweathercams.faa.gov/allcams.php

Hows this for a forecast:
AKZ213-091815-
ST LAWRENCE ISLAND AND BERING STRAIT COAST-
INCLUDING...GAMBELL...SAVOONGA...BREVIG MISSION...TELLER...
WALES...DIOMEDE
725 PM AKST TUE NOV 8 2011

...COASTAL FLOOD WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL MIDNIGHT AKST WEDNESDAY
NIGHT...

...HIGH WIND WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON AKST WEDNESDAY...
.TONIGHT...HIGH WINDS. SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW WITH LOCAL BLIZZARD
CONDITIONS. SNOW ACCUMULATION TO 4 INCHES.
LOWS 30 TO 35.
SOUTHEAST WINDS 70 MPH WITH GUSTS AS HIGH AS 100 MPH. STRONGEST
WINDS NEAR SAVOONGA.
...snip...

With winds like that I wonder how they can "really" measure the precipitation? It seems any snow that falls is just going to be blown away and thus, not be measurable. You certainly can't go out and stick a measuring stick into the snow and read it. They must have automated/heated rain gauges for areas like this. Anyone know how they do this?

Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Bushman on November 09, 2011, 12:58:53 PM
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snotel/Alaska/alaska.html
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: DaculaWeather on November 09, 2011, 03:46:46 PM
visible loop - http://www.daculaweather.com/conus/al_visible_loop.php
water vapor loop - http://www.daculaweather.com/conus/al_wv_loop.php
http://www.daculaweather.com/alaska_models.php
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: IMADreamer on November 09, 2011, 09:17:05 PM
wow.   That's all I got.  100mph gusts. 
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Scalphunter on November 09, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
The weather guys here are classify the storm equal to an Cat 3 hurricane. Still snowing and blowing with another low moving in behind this one with 60 knots forcasted. Nome  has barricade sandbag and now waiting to see how bad the flooding is. Water level is  expected to crest 8 feet above mmhw  around 2000 tonight. Golvin Bay  expecting  to crest some time between 2000-2200 tonight. Not dub an perfect storm but in my opinion it is just one of many that comes thru this area that is as bad or worst then that North Altantic storm.

Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: 4wd on November 10, 2011, 05:17:01 AM
Youtube footage getting uploaded now, some collected here
http://www.meteosottoceneri.ch/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=55
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: neondesert on November 11, 2011, 02:10:11 PM
Storm image from NASA's Aqua satellite:

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=76382 (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=76382)
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Farmtalk on November 11, 2011, 04:29:33 PM
Incredible image! Looks like one of those storms on Jupiter (If it were colored of course)
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: W3DRM on November 12, 2011, 03:48:57 PM
Here's another link from the NOAA Environmental Visualization Laboratory with some additional satellite images:


Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Scalphunter on November 15, 2011, 10:59:54 PM
Looks like one death from this storm. Guy rode his ATV down to breakwater in Teller and never came home. Believe to been washed away. All I can say  kinda dumb to go out on breakwater that awashed with water. It will get you every time.

Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Farmtalk on November 16, 2011, 04:39:34 PM
1 death isnt too bad, even though it could have been predicted
Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: W3DRM on November 17, 2011, 12:53:39 PM
Here is a link to keep handy for the future. It shows the northern hemisphere jet stream animations for a variety of selectable periods of time.

For the topic of this thread, just select the animation for 20 days and an interval of 6 hours to watch the development of the storm. Pretty interesting. I had seen this link a long time ago but couldn't remember where it was. I stumbled on it this morning. The main site (http://squall.sfsu.edu (http://squall.sfsu.edu)) has lots of images and animations to select from.


Title: Re: Bad deep storm forecasted
Post by: Farmtalk on November 18, 2011, 08:49:12 AM
Great link! There was some strong winds showing up on that map around from the 9th-11th with winds on that map exceeding a 150 knots! :shock: